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SC Upstate on September 25, 2024, 6:57 AM
I could be totally wrong ....... didn't Rock come from Burke? LaDoriane from Takter? and Chevron from Erv Miller? I could be wrong about all three, sure there's several more examples. There's an advantage to a horse coming from a quality barn. Get a horse from a lesser trainer, is he getting trained, right equipment, fed, vet care, etc? Sure you can turn that horse around but it's going to take a month or two at the minimum. It's clear AMac has at the very least a professional relationship with Burke. He sends him horses to train and I know Burke's been in at least one of his video's. The difference between all the top trainers is the money behind them. For me the one exception would be Ake. He trains on sand, totally different style. That said, might be smart to train a horse coming from his barn. Would be a huge change for the horse.
It may not be the fun part of keeping statistics, it's time consuming and continuous, but try not to be in question, do the work and or ask TheStable if they are keeping these stats, this way you're never "wrong" out of ignorance. You're an owner, as are the others and possibly even backing of this journey with the investment, trips, some wagering too.
I like your post, you feel that you have a feel, great stuff.
As one who does voluminous analysis on the wagering side, and I keep my own virtual stable (VS) of that which I follow typically horses, historically a trainer, and also an owner / trainer change is a big deal to myself and others.
Keep in mind, Burke as you know owns most of the stable he trains. When you see his name in the first listing in the program he owns an equal if not greater share than his partners as I was taught. Also don't compare Burke's winning % to another trainer, he's the # 1 money winning guy whether he trains at 15-35%. When we all (gamblers) see a new trainer in good double digits winning and itm get a horse from a single digit % trainer we salivate, visa versa not so much.
If you're doing well with buying shares in previously owned Burke horses, great, fantastic, I assure you it is helping his (Burke) reputation too and benefiting you, why does it help him, less scrutiny. I'm rooting for you all to be successful, not for myself regarding this being correct. We all have our opinions and knowledge, expertise. Some of what we're discussing has factual historic data, let's start utilizing and quoting it in great majority, not 1 case study or a few out of thousands. Again, ask AMac and Team, other trainers their experience historically buying from Burke... 🙂
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SC Upstate on September 25, 2024, 6:57 AM
I could be totally wrong ....... didn't Rock come from Burke? LaDoriane from Takter? and Chevron from Erv Miller? I could be wrong about all three, sure there's several more examples. There's an advantage to a horse coming from a quality barn. Get a horse from a lesser trainer, is he getting trained, right equipment, fed, vet care, etc? Sure you can turn that horse around but it's going to take a month or two at the minimum. It's clear AMac has at the very least a professional relationship with Burke. He sends him horses to train and I know Burke's been in at least one of his video's. The difference between all the top trainers is the money behind them. For me the one exception would be Ake. He trains on sand, totally different style. That said, might be smart to train a horse coming from his barn. Would be a huge change for the horse.
It may not be the fun part of keeping statistics, it's time consuming and continuous, but try not to be in question, do the work and or ask TheStable if they are keeping these stats, this way you're never "wrong" out of ignorance. You're an owner, as are the others and possibly even backing of this journey with the investment, trips, some wagering too.
I like your post, you feel that you have a feel, great stuff.
As one who does voluminous analysis on the wagering side, and I keep my own virtual stable (VS) of that which I follow typically horses, historically a trainer, and also an owner / trainer change is a big deal to myself and others.
Keep in mind, Burke as you know owns most of the stable he trains. When you see his name in the first listing in the program he owns an equal if not greater share than his partners as I was taught. Also don't compare Burke's winning % to another trainer, he's the # 1 money winning guy whether he trains at 15-35%. When we all (gamblers) see a new trainer in good double digits winning and itm get a horse from a single digit % trainer we salivate, visa versa not so much.
If you're doing well with buying shares in previously owned Burke horses, great, fantastic, I assure you it is helping his (Burke) reputation too and benefiting you, why does it help him, less scrutiny. I'm rooting for you all to be successful, not for myself regarding this being correct. We all have our opinions and knowledge, expertise. Some of what we're discussing has factual historic data, let's start utilizing and quoting it in great majority, not 1 case study or a few out of thousands. Again, ask AMac and Team, other trainers their experience historically buying from Burke... 🙂
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