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Ron Burke - is it just me?

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Highest Honors got up for third last night, pacing past a 4/5 Ron Burke trained horse. I felt like a winner!  Nothing personal but Burke has sooooo many horses.  It just seems like it's Burke vs the world.  Anyone else feel the same?

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Quote from SC Upstate on June 30, 2025, 7:08 AM

Highest Honors got up for third last night, pacing past a 4/5 Ron Burke trained horse. I felt like a winner!  Nothing personal but Burke has sooooo many horses.  It just seems like it's Burke vs the world.  Anyone else feel the same?

Totally!  The Burke Brigade has beaten me out numerous times.

More than double wins/money than 2nd place trainer.

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First one up in the morning. Last one to leave. Eye roll. 

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I've been around harness racing for a long time and one thing I've never liked was multiple horses from the same barn in a race.  And today's Captain Incredible is a perfect example why and no I'm not a Captain owner. Dave Palone should be suspended for needlessly giving Ronnie Wrenn a hole to drop into, Ronnie goes on to win the race. Guess who they're both driving for?

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@pcmark15 yeah, but who would fill the race? Ron Burke has publicly made noise of slowing down in the coming years.  We would all be better off with more trainers and owners in the sport instead of his dominance. The Burkes have a system that isn’t easily duplicated and don’t count me in the camp that he cheats to get there.   And they have an exceptional stallion in Sweet Lou, who went against my earlier argument that hard raced 2 year olds are compromised.  He was an outlier and not a surprise that he is the best pacing sire currently in the game.

As for Captain Incredible, he isn’t 3 year old grand circuit stake quality colt.  Shut him down and hope for 2-3 years of Open Quality or race him in the Stallion Series.  His breeding didn’t justify a $250 k yearling price tag, and they have fought conformation issues from the jump.  He could still be a productive aged pacer like Save America.  I imagine there is a lot of pressure, either self imposed or from the investors on AMac.

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Does anyone know how old Ron Burke is?  He doesn't look that old to me.

Quote from Lonnie on July 11, 2025, 8:40 PM

Does anyone know how old Ron Burke is?  He doesn't look that old to me.

I cheated.  He's 12 years younger than I.  He's 56.  That makes me, ummm, 12 years older.  

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Burke trainees went over $10 million YTD as of July 13.  In an interview he said that they need $12 million per year to break even, which I assume means ALL expenses including his training and management fees, Marl Weaver’s management fees, etc.  It ain’t no hobby.

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Tomorrow there are two eliminations for the Adios, Burke has five of the fifteen entries, Two in the first elimination and three in the second, he could conceivably put five horses in the finals and walk away with 100% of the purse money. How can that be good for harness racing ?

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