Perfect Thought
Quote from Lonnie on May 23, 2026, 9:44 AMQuote from pcmark15 on May 22, 2026, 6:17 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC_KcL8RJ0E
I'm not confident with her going to Mohawk, she was terrible in both of her big money races there last year.
OH NO!! Thank you for sharing this video. So sorry to hear đ
Quote from pcmark15 on May 22, 2026, 6:17 PMI'm not confident with her going to Mohawk, she was terrible in both of her big money races there last year.
OH NO!! Thank you for sharing this video. So sorry to hear đ
Quote from Bgtolex25 on May 23, 2026, 2:13 PMJust listening to video now. Â Freaking just turn her out for a few weeks with proper medical treatment. Train down in a different manner and aim for the fall stakes.
 I had one of those overnight horses (a mare) about a year and half ago.  Supposedly bled badly, bloodwork a mess, put back in the box on a short week and could barely finish the race. Fortunately for her, she got claimed on her first try back after a few months of necessary rest.He just admitted that this could have long term consequences if raced tonight.  Why is it even a question?
Sorry, this boils me over. Â
Just listening to video now. Â Freaking just turn her out for a few weeks with proper medical treatment. Train down in a different manner and aim for the fall stakes.
 I had one of those overnight horses (a mare) about a year and half ago.  Supposedly bled badly, bloodwork a mess, put back in the box on a short week and could barely finish the race. Fortunately for her, she got claimed on her first try back after a few months of necessary rest.
He just admitted that this could have long term consequences if raced tonight. Â Why is it even a question?
Sorry, this boils me over. Â
Quote from pcmark15 on May 23, 2026, 3:31 PMI wonder if there isn't more to this than just being "tied-up", I didn't understand why she need to be brought back to Northfield just to be treated for it. This may explain why Anthony wanted Dr Latessa to check her over, hopefully I'm just over reacting.
I wonder if there isn't more to this than just being "tied-up", I didn't understand why she need to be brought back to Northfield just to be treated for it. This may explain why Anthony wanted Dr Latessa to check her over, hopefully I'm just over reacting.
Quote from Bgtolex25 on May 23, 2026, 10:28 PMI used to try to keep my critical comments to private messaging or live person to person. Â But heck, it is only 6-12 of us anyway and most have heard it from me before.
In my critical opinion, AMac is being disingenuous in playing off the tying up to issues as impossible to predict and prevent. Â Do your own research on the issue, but exercise beyond the horseâs conditioning is the most common culprit. Â (Same with respiratory bleeding and the need for lasix by the way). Yes, there are other factors, but they pale against going too hard without the proper foundation. Â
As for Perfect Thought, one modest qualifier in 1:54 at the Meadows is not sufficient to send her in against Anthony Beatonâs Be Perfect Bg. Â In AMacâs own words from a video, âno reason to have her boiling over this early.â Â Then donât ask her to chase after a monster first time out! Â Compare how Dr. Moore prepped Beau Jangles. Â Two huge qualifiers in Florida in April against the likes of his 4 year old stablemate, Prince Hal Hanover.
I hope Niek is right about the work on this yearâs 2 year olds, because the last 2 seasons have been a nearly universal decline by those conditioned out of Northfield. Â Arrowhead Hanover is the exception and one can review how his training was different according to AMac (see May 2024 videos). Â Fingers crossed for Jailbird Jog, Degas, and Perfect Thought. Â The rest of the 3 year olds are minor stakes or condition/claimers and will be run through as commodities. Â The only other 4 year olds left from the 2024 class besides Arrowhead are Foxy Seaside and Gorgeous Package. Â The former peaked in her first start of he baby season. Â The latter is a shell of her best version.
Rant is over. Â Disagree if you choose, but know my heart is with the horses.
I used to try to keep my critical comments to private messaging or live person to person. Â But heck, it is only 6-12 of us anyway and most have heard it from me before.
In my critical opinion, AMac is being disingenuous in playing off the tying up to issues as impossible to predict and prevent. Â Do your own research on the issue, but exercise beyond the horseâs conditioning is the most common culprit. Â (Same with respiratory bleeding and the need for lasix by the way). Yes, there are other factors, but they pale against going too hard without the proper foundation. Â
As for Perfect Thought, one modest qualifier in 1:54 at the Meadows is not sufficient to send her in against Anthony Beatonâs Be Perfect Bg. Â In AMacâs own words from a video, âno reason to have her boiling over this early.â Â Then donât ask her to chase after a monster first time out! Â Compare how Dr. Moore prepped Beau Jangles. Â Two huge qualifiers in Florida in April against the likes of his 4 year old stablemate, Prince Hal Hanover.
I hope Niek is right about the work on this yearâs 2 year olds, because the last 2 seasons have been a nearly universal decline by those conditioned out of Northfield. Â Arrowhead Hanover is the exception and one can review how his training was different according to AMac (see May 2024 videos). Â Fingers crossed for Jailbird Jog, Degas, and Perfect Thought. Â The rest of the 3 year olds are minor stakes or condition/claimers and will be run through as commodities. Â The only other 4 year olds left from the 2024 class besides Arrowhead are Foxy Seaside and Gorgeous Package. Â The former peaked in her first start of he baby season. Â The latter is a shell of her best version.
Rant is over. Â Disagree if you choose, but know my heart is with the horses.
Quote from NiekH on May 24, 2026, 7:35 AMQuote from pcmark15 on May 23, 2026, 3:31 PMI wonder if there isn't more to this than just being "tied-up", I didn't understand why she need to be brought back to Northfield just to be treated for it. This may explain why Anthony wanted Dr Latessa to check her over, hopefully I'm just over reacting.
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Hopefully to ease your mind, I got the same e-mail with Jailbird Jog on the same day:
So I believe there was not something wrong with Perfect Thought at the time of the email.
Quote from pcmark15 on May 23, 2026, 3:31 PMI wonder if there isn't more to this than just being "tied-up", I didn't understand why she need to be brought back to Northfield just to be treated for it. This may explain why Anthony wanted Dr Latessa to check her over, hopefully I'm just over reacting.
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Hopefully to ease your mind, I got the same e-mail with Jailbird Jog on the same day:
So I believe there was not something wrong with Perfect Thought at the time of the email.
Quote from NiekH on May 24, 2026, 7:46 AMQuote from Bgtolex25 on May 23, 2026, 10:28 PMI used to try to keep my critical comments to private messaging or live person to person. Â But heck, it is only 6-12 of us anyway and most have heard it from me before.
In my critical opinion, AMac is being disingenuous in playing off the tying up to issues as impossible to predict and prevent. Â Do your own research on the issue, but exercise beyond the horseâs conditioning is the most common culprit. Â (Same with respiratory bleeding and the need for lasix by the way). Yes, there are other factors, but they pale against going too hard without the proper foundation. Â
As for Perfect Thought, one modest qualifier in 1:54 at the Meadows is not sufficient to send her in against Anthony Beatonâs Be Perfect Bg. Â In AMacâs own words from a video, âno reason to have her boiling over this early.â Â Then donât ask her to chase after a monster first time out! Â Compare how Dr. Moore prepped Beau Jangles. Â Two huge qualifiers in Florida in April against the likes of his 4 year old stablemate, Prince Hal Hanover.
I hope Niek is right about the work on this yearâs 2 year olds, because the last 2 seasons have been a nearly universal decline by those conditioned out of Northfield. Â Arrowhead Hanover is the exception and one can review how his training was different according to AMac (see May 2024 videos). Â Fingers crossed for Jailbird Jog, Degas, and Perfect Thought. Â The rest of the 3 year olds are minor stakes or condition/claimers and will be run through as commodities. Â The only other 4 year olds left from the 2024 class besides Arrowhead are Foxy Seaside and Gorgeous Package. Â The former peaked in her first start of he baby season. Â The latter is a shell of her best version.
Rant is over. Â Disagree if you choose, but know my heart is with the horses.
I tend to agree, horses need a strong foundation. Especially 2yo's, we dont call them babies for nothing. They are immature horses. They need time to develop and grow, mentally and physically. In Europe we have a stronger focus on racing at a later age, so the focus on a young 2yo for me was already a thing to get used to.
Maybe I'll go time a few sets of my horses over the last few years and this point in time to see if my feeling is correct. I am of the firm believe that if you want to reach a certain race speed you need to have been in that speed in training before. It is the same with human athletes in cycling, speed skating, athletics. You train for the performance you need to put out.Â
Sure you don't push yourself or your horse to the limit like in a race, but you get close. When you train for a marathon, you don't run the full 42.2 km / 26.2 mi in training. But you get close, you run 25km / 22 mi instead.Â
For measure I just looked up all the results of the horses I have had back home. If they raced at 2, they qualified mid to late June / early July to race in August. More often than not, the qualifier was faster than their first start.Â
Quote from Bgtolex25 on May 23, 2026, 10:28 PMI used to try to keep my critical comments to private messaging or live person to person. Â But heck, it is only 6-12 of us anyway and most have heard it from me before.
In my critical opinion, AMac is being disingenuous in playing off the tying up to issues as impossible to predict and prevent. Â Do your own research on the issue, but exercise beyond the horseâs conditioning is the most common culprit. Â (Same with respiratory bleeding and the need for lasix by the way). Yes, there are other factors, but they pale against going too hard without the proper foundation. Â
As for Perfect Thought, one modest qualifier in 1:54 at the Meadows is not sufficient to send her in against Anthony Beatonâs Be Perfect Bg. Â In AMacâs own words from a video, âno reason to have her boiling over this early.â Â Then donât ask her to chase after a monster first time out! Â Compare how Dr. Moore prepped Beau Jangles. Â Two huge qualifiers in Florida in April against the likes of his 4 year old stablemate, Prince Hal Hanover.
I hope Niek is right about the work on this yearâs 2 year olds, because the last 2 seasons have been a nearly universal decline by those conditioned out of Northfield. Â Arrowhead Hanover is the exception and one can review how his training was different according to AMac (see May 2024 videos). Â Fingers crossed for Jailbird Jog, Degas, and Perfect Thought. Â The rest of the 3 year olds are minor stakes or condition/claimers and will be run through as commodities. Â The only other 4 year olds left from the 2024 class besides Arrowhead are Foxy Seaside and Gorgeous Package. Â The former peaked in her first start of he baby season. Â The latter is a shell of her best version.
Rant is over. Â Disagree if you choose, but know my heart is with the horses.
I tend to agree, horses need a strong foundation. Especially 2yo's, we dont call them babies for nothing. They are immature horses. They need time to develop and grow, mentally and physically. In Europe we have a stronger focus on racing at a later age, so the focus on a young 2yo for me was already a thing to get used to.
Maybe I'll go time a few sets of my horses over the last few years and this point in time to see if my feeling is correct. I am of the firm believe that if you want to reach a certain race speed you need to have been in that speed in training before. It is the same with human athletes in cycling, speed skating, athletics. You train for the performance you need to put out.Â
Sure you don't push yourself or your horse to the limit like in a race, but you get close. When you train for a marathon, you don't run the full 42.2 km / 26.2 mi in training. But you get close, you run 25km / 22 mi instead.Â
For measure I just looked up all the results of the horses I have had back home. If they raced at 2, they qualified mid to late June / early July to race in August. More often than not, the qualifier was faster than their first start.Â
Quote from Bgtolex25 on May 24, 2026, 8:27 AM@niekh I heard Marcus Melander mention his use of interval training. Â Interval training requires extensive knowledge, consistency and commitment in time. Â I donât know if Burke technically uses all the aspects of the method, but he has referenced speed training in interviews. Â Both of the above trainers obviously run high volume stables. Â I would love to see a deep dive into their methods and challenges.
@niekh I heard Marcus Melander mention his use of interval training. Â Interval training requires extensive knowledge, consistency and commitment in time. Â I donât know if Burke technically uses all the aspects of the method, but he has referenced speed training in interviews. Â Both of the above trainers obviously run high volume stables. Â I would love to see a deep dive into their methods and challenges.
Quote from NiekH on May 24, 2026, 9:06 AMQuote from Bgtolex25 on May 24, 2026, 8:27 AM@niekh I heard Marcus Melander mention his use of interval training. Â Interval training requires extensive knowledge, consistency and commitment in time. Â I donât know if Burke technically uses all the aspects of the method, but he has referenced speed training in interviews. Â Both of the above trainers obviously run high volume stables. Â I would love to see a deep dive into their methods and challenges.
Almost all European trainers seem to use interval training. I am shocked its not used in North America. Most trainers here have a 1/4 mi strip to do interval training down as well. Same with deep sand stamina training. Here all horses also have field time, so it shocks me that Northfield has no grass anywhere. I've seen trainers use so many different forms of training over here, it is hard to say what works best.Â
In many ways training in the US and Canada feel very different. Have a look at the compound Swedish trainer Westholm has: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rUhEBKBw64
Translation of the facilities listed:
- "VÀrldsberömda takrakan tung sand 700 m"
"World-famous Takrakan â 700 m heavy/deep sand track."- "1600 m Rakbana"
"1600 m straight track."- "1300 m rundbana sviktande jordunderlag"
"1300 m oval track with resilient/yielding dirt footing."- "500 m backtrÀning"
"500 m hill-training track."
Quote from Bgtolex25 on May 24, 2026, 8:27 AM@niekh I heard Marcus Melander mention his use of interval training. Â Interval training requires extensive knowledge, consistency and commitment in time. Â I donât know if Burke technically uses all the aspects of the method, but he has referenced speed training in interviews. Â Both of the above trainers obviously run high volume stables. Â I would love to see a deep dive into their methods and challenges.
Almost all European trainers seem to use interval training. I am shocked its not used in North America. Most trainers here have a 1/4 mi strip to do interval training down as well. Same with deep sand stamina training. Here all horses also have field time, so it shocks me that Northfield has no grass anywhere. I've seen trainers use so many different forms of training over here, it is hard to say what works best.Â
In many ways training in the US and Canada feel very different. Have a look at the compound Swedish trainer Westholm has: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rUhEBKBw64
Translation of the facilities listed:
- "VÀrldsberömda takrakan tung sand 700 m"
"World-famous Takrakan â 700 m heavy/deep sand track." - "1600 m Rakbana"
"1600 m straight track." - "1300 m rundbana sviktande jordunderlag"
"1300 m oval track with resilient/yielding dirt footing." - "500 m backtrÀning"
"500 m hill-training track."
Quote from NiekH on May 24, 2026, 9:33 AMQuote from NiekH on May 24, 2026, 7:46 AMQuote from Bgtolex25 on May 23, 2026, 10:28 PM
Maybe I'll go time a few sets of my horses over the last few years and this point in time to see if my feeling is correct.
So I did a little timing:
In conclusion, it doesn't seem we are much faster than previous years. 2024 was a slow year it seems, they were still in the jog cart and the next live stream was qualifying day in June. I tried to time a couple of set per gait but usually there was only 1 pacing set. My feeling is we have hit the 2:10 mark earlier than before, but again a feeling not a fact since I haven't checked.Â
While watching these sets, I was reminded how fractious Jailbird Jog was. She shot off into a gallop in the last turn of Uncle Danny's set. Sweet Lake barely held off Perfect Thought. It also showed me again how talented She Sits Atthe Bar looked before she got hurt. I no longer own her, but will for sure try to get in on her first foal.Â
Quote from NiekH on May 24, 2026, 7:46 AMQuote from Bgtolex25 on May 23, 2026, 10:28 PM
Maybe I'll go time a few sets of my horses over the last few years and this point in time to see if my feeling is correct.
So I did a little timing:
In conclusion, it doesn't seem we are much faster than previous years. 2024 was a slow year it seems, they were still in the jog cart and the next live stream was qualifying day in June. I tried to time a couple of set per gait but usually there was only 1 pacing set. My feeling is we have hit the 2:10 mark earlier than before, but again a feeling not a fact since I haven't checked.Â
While watching these sets, I was reminded how fractious Jailbird Jog was. She shot off into a gallop in the last turn of Uncle Danny's set. Sweet Lake barely held off Perfect Thought. It also showed me again how talented She Sits Atthe Bar looked before she got hurt. I no longer own her, but will for sure try to get in on her first foal.Â
Quote from pcmark15 on June 2, 2026, 11:10 PMA pretty good draw for Perfect Thought in the Fan Hanover eliminations, she gets the three hole plus she doesn't have to tangle with Be Perfect BG and Loua Dipa in her first start back after tying up. Hopefully James gets along with her, he did qualify her once last year.
A pretty good draw for Perfect Thought in the Fan Hanover eliminations, she gets the three hole plus she doesn't have to tangle with Be Perfect BG and Loua Dipa in her first start back after tying up. Hopefully James gets along with her, he did qualify her once last year.



