Cumberland Run, Corbin, KY
Quote from Bgtolex25 on October 15, 2025, 7:15 AMCongratulations to all the connections. Nice to see Eric and Kathy get off to a solid start down there.
If anyone makes it down, please post some pictures of that winners circle set up.
Congratulations to all the connections. Nice to see Eric and Kathy get off to a solid start down there.
If anyone makes it down, please post some pictures of that winners circle set up.
Quote from Lonnie on October 15, 2025, 8:51 AMQuote from Bgtolex25 on October 15, 2025, 7:15 AM...
If anyone makes it down, please post some pictures of that winners circle set up.
Preferably with Neptune N in the picture (and not just pacing by) 😉
Quote from Bgtolex25 on October 15, 2025, 7:15 AM...
If anyone makes it down, please post some pictures of that winners circle set up.
Preferably with Neptune N in the picture (and not just pacing by) 😉
Quote from Purple Aura on October 15, 2025, 11:11 AMAnthony mentioned bringing Zina back for one more start in the same class. As long as he isn't moving up to the 40k class I suppose one more start is fine. If she dominates I'm concerned he will want to give the 40k one shot. I'd be against that.
I'm trying to swap some Ohio shares for both the yearlings he bought yesterday. I really like Sunday Royale.
Anthony mentioned bringing Zina back for one more start in the same class. As long as he isn't moving up to the 40k class I suppose one more start is fine. If she dominates I'm concerned he will want to give the 40k one shot. I'd be against that.
I'm trying to swap some Ohio shares for both the yearlings he bought yesterday. I really like Sunday Royale.
Quote from Bgtolex25 on October 15, 2025, 3:34 PMI believe that we will have differing opinions on this, but I would shut her down and have more runway into her 3-year-old campaign in the nw classes. I understand the importance of getting that 2-year-old record, especially for fillies and potential broodmare value. But I don't see the point of burning up too many wins in non-stake level races right now.
The flip side...she may not come back as good as she is right now. Strike while the iron is hot. She isn't a very big filly, so this may be her best time to shine. Watching those Amazon-like fillies at the Red Mile this summer really turned my head. More than likely, those big fillies will be better next year with addition of muscle and coordination to go along with the size.
See, I can even disagree with myself if I think about it long enough. Good luck with her whatever path is chosen.
I believe that we will have differing opinions on this, but I would shut her down and have more runway into her 3-year-old campaign in the nw classes. I understand the importance of getting that 2-year-old record, especially for fillies and potential broodmare value. But I don't see the point of burning up too many wins in non-stake level races right now.
The flip side...she may not come back as good as she is right now. Strike while the iron is hot. She isn't a very big filly, so this may be her best time to shine. Watching those Amazon-like fillies at the Red Mile this summer really turned my head. More than likely, those big fillies will be better next year with addition of muscle and coordination to go along with the size.
See, I can even disagree with myself if I think about it long enough. Good luck with her whatever path is chosen.
Quote from pcmark15 on October 16, 2025, 1:30 AMUnfortunately sometimes these become strictly business decisions, here you have a horse that hasn't come close to paying for herself but she's coming off a win. Do you keep her going to try and help your clients get some of their money back, especially if there's some large shareholders that would be helping you buy next years crop yearlings.
It's late in the year now but Zina certainly wasn't the only one.
Unfortunately sometimes these become strictly business decisions, here you have a horse that hasn't come close to paying for herself but she's coming off a win. Do you keep her going to try and help your clients get some of their money back, especially if there's some large shareholders that would be helping you buy next years crop yearlings.
It's late in the year now but Zina certainly wasn't the only one.
Quote from Lonnie on October 16, 2025, 9:08 AMQuote from pcmark15 on October 16, 2025, 1:30 AMUnfortunately sometimes these become strictly business decisions, here you have a horse that hasn't come close to paying for herself but she's coming off a win. Do you keep her going to try and help your clients get some of their money back, especially if there's some large shareholders that would be helping you buy next years crop yearlings.
It's late in the year now but Zina certainly wasn't the only one.
Though she wasn't a high-priced horse, I felt the same way the year before about Fireandshine. She finally found her form and won the last two races of her two-year-old campaign and was turned out. She was in form (finally), and then shut down. I, perhaps selfishly, would have liked to see her keep going that year. She didn't come back good at all at three and was sold early in the year.
Hindsight is 20/20, and I'm only looking at this through my lens with one horse (others certainly didn't come back well this year, though their cases weren't similar to Fireandshine).
Quote from pcmark15 on October 16, 2025, 1:30 AMUnfortunately sometimes these become strictly business decisions, here you have a horse that hasn't come close to paying for herself but she's coming off a win. Do you keep her going to try and help your clients get some of their money back, especially if there's some large shareholders that would be helping you buy next years crop yearlings.
It's late in the year now but Zina certainly wasn't the only one.
Though she wasn't a high-priced horse, I felt the same way the year before about Fireandshine. She finally found her form and won the last two races of her two-year-old campaign and was turned out. She was in form (finally), and then shut down. I, perhaps selfishly, would have liked to see her keep going that year. She didn't come back good at all at three and was sold early in the year.
Hindsight is 20/20, and I'm only looking at this through my lens with one horse (others certainly didn't come back well this year, though their cases weren't similar to Fireandshine).
Quote from pcmark15 on October 16, 2025, 3:19 PMAll the entries for Cumberland Run this week are up and Zina's not listed. Even if they put her in the box and she didn't get in no reason not to turn her out now.
All the entries for Cumberland Run this week are up and Zina's not listed. Even if they put her in the box and she didn't get in no reason not to turn her out now.
Quote from Bgtolex25 on October 16, 2025, 5:24 PMQuote from Lonnie on October 16, 2025, 9:08 AMThough she wasn't a high-priced horse, I felt the same way the year before about Fireandshine. She finally found her form and won the last two races of her two-year-old campaign and was turned out. She was in form (finally), and then shut down. I, perhaps selfishly, would have liked to see her keep going that year. She didn't come back good at all at three and was sold early in the year.
I remember you mentioning this last fall and at that time I disagreed. Now, not so sure. I keep going back to some of these undersized fillies like Jailbird Jog, Zina and Degas. I saw them all numerous times on the Red Mile track and up close in the barn. They don’t look like Melander and Svansted 2 year olds. Their competitive advantages may never be better than they are right now. Obviously, the most important factor is how the horses are feeling, attitude, etc. Very happy that Zina broke her maiden and joined the others with a much deserved win photo.
Quote from Lonnie on October 16, 2025, 9:08 AM
Though she wasn't a high-priced horse, I felt the same way the year before about Fireandshine. She finally found her form and won the last two races of her two-year-old campaign and was turned out. She was in form (finally), and then shut down. I, perhaps selfishly, would have liked to see her keep going that year. She didn't come back good at all at three and was sold early in the year.
I remember you mentioning this last fall and at that time I disagreed. Now, not so sure. I keep going back to some of these undersized fillies like Jailbird Jog, Zina and Degas. I saw them all numerous times on the Red Mile track and up close in the barn. They don’t look like Melander and Svansted 2 year olds. Their competitive advantages may never be better than they are right now. Obviously, the most important factor is how the horses are feeling, attitude, etc. Very happy that Zina broke her maiden and joined the others with a much deserved win photo.